1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 On this edition of Sightings, have we lived before? 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,000 She said, you resemble someone, and she kept staring at my eyes. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 This man's amazing journey unlocked the secret to a past life and led him to his lost love. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 I told her I'd come back. 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Then, in 1975, was this country's strategic defense system shut down by extraterrestrials? 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,000 The military was very effective in keeping it quiet. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Could it happen again? 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,000 It's not the first time in UFO history, it won't be the last. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Plus, a sightings update. Will the Heartland Ghost strike again? 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,000 I think there is perhaps a lost soul or a spirit that is trying to communicate. 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Later, they risked their lives while in an altered state of consciousness. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 It's dangerous, there's death there. 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,000 And survivors of near-death experiences share a special message. 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 I'm not afraid to die, that's for sure. 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Music 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Welcome to Sightings. I'm Tim White. 17 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,000 When investigative reporter Tim Stewart agreed to undergo a past life regression, 18 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 he thought it was just research. 19 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 He thought it would help him understand a phenomenon that he didn't believe in. 20 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,000 And he thought it would help him explode the myth of reincarnation. 21 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 But Tim Stewart thought wrong. 22 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Music 23 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,000 She kept staring at me, and she said, you resemble someone. 24 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Who do you resemble? And she kept staring at my eyes. 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Music 26 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:57,000 He arrived in a place he'd never been before, and felt that he was home. 27 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,000 He met a woman he didn't know, but his heart told him something different. 28 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Was it imagination, wishful thinking, or was it the end of a journey he was destined to take? 29 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Well, I think with a logical mind, being a scientist, where I'm coming from is what didn't add up. 30 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,000 I just, I just discounted. 31 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,000 Tim Stewart's strange journey began here in Albuquerque, New Mexico. 32 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:31,000 A computer scientist by day, Stewart pursued his first love, journalism, as a freelance reporter. 33 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:38,000 My wife used to tell me that two plus two didn't always have to equal four, but to me it has to. 34 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:46,000 And so I like to have proof. As far as paranormal and stuff like that, I wasn't that much into it. 35 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:53,000 But when Stewart was hired to write a series of articles about the paranormal for a national magazine, everything changed. 36 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:00,000 I was assigned several different topics, and one of the topics happened to be past life therapy. 37 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,000 As part of his research, Stewart became his own guinea pig. 38 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:10,000 He underwent several hypnotherapy sessions with regressionists, Elsa Laflame, and Irene Larrison. 39 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,000 He felt if he was going to write about it, he wanted to know what the experience was. 40 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:22,000 So that as a writer, he could interpret it and, and write about it in the first person. 41 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:29,000 The more you go under, the clearer things become. The very first time you go under, the second time things become hazy. 42 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 They're not as clear. You're doubting yourself. 43 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,000 But the fourth time Tim Stewart was hypnotized, the unimaginable happened. 44 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:43,000 The impartial reporter began revealing very personal details about a man who had died before Stewart was born. 45 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,000 I knew that I grew up in a town called Allentown, Pennsylvania. 46 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:54,000 I knew that I had brothers, and it was still bits and pieces of a puzzle. 47 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:02,000 He started coming out with some very good information. He started coming out with names, with places, with descriptions. 48 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:09,000 She said, where are you? And I said, North Africa. It was just a Thursday. I knew where I was. 49 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:16,000 I knew that my name was on my bag. I had this cold feeling. I was chilled to the bone. 50 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:23,000 I knew that he was part of the 47th Infantry of the 9th Division. I knew that I was born May 27, 1919. 51 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:28,000 When I was asked to look at the, look at the dog tag, it was as clear as me looking at you. 52 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:34,000 I could read the numbers off of it. I was able to bring out his military serial number, his blood type. 53 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,000 I kept saying that my name was William, and I knew the last name was Max. 54 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Under hypnosis, a portrait of William Max emerged. He was a soldier, husband and father, born in 1919 in Allentown, Pennsylvania, but was there really a William Max? 55 00:04:52,000 --> 00:05:00,000 I called the Allentown Library, and we got a hold of the gentleman who is head of genealogy, and he told me he would look into it. 56 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:08,000 A month later, Stuart received a letter from the library. Enclosed was the obituary of a man named William Max and his photograph. 57 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:16,000 I opened it up, and there was Williams. It was just a black and white, but still, there was an uncanny resemblance to me. 58 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:27,000 I started crying, and I don't know why, but I did. You know, it was like, it was like, it was too much. 59 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Tim Stewart continued to undergo hypnosis, and the memories became even more real. 60 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Every time I went under hypnosis, I felt like something was wrapped around my forehead. I felt like you could literally reach inside my torso. 61 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000 I felt that my left leg, there was something wrong with my left leg. 62 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Vision after vision proved correct. The grave marker he recalled under hypnosis was confirmed by the Pentagon. 63 00:05:52,000 --> 00:06:02,000 So were his dog tag numbers. And then, as Tim Stewart filled in more of the everyday details of Max's life, he says he began to feel his soul as well. 64 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:10,000 I kept talking about this woman in England. I knew her name was M, and Irene asked me and came right out. 65 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:16,000 She said, do you know this woman now? And I said yes, and I said, she's my wife, Babette. 66 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:26,000 It was a strange recognition. Tim Stewart looked into the eyes of his wife and saw the reflection of William Max's long lost love. 67 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:33,000 I think things that are unfinished in one lifetime, you're given an opportunity to finish in the next. 68 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:38,000 When Babette was regressed, her first recollections mirrored those of her husband. 69 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:44,000 It feels like daydreaming. It's sort of like watching an old film in your head. 70 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:52,000 But then, Babette began to reveal new details. A passionate but short-lived love affair in London that ended with Max's death. 71 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:59,000 For a long time, she really didn't even know that he was dead. She just assumed that he just never wanted to come back. 72 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:06,000 She loved him, and I think in a lot of ways she was very bitter because he never came back. 73 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,000 And no one could really tell her what had happened to him. 74 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:21,000 She was beautiful. She was as beautiful as my wife is now. And she just, the eyes is what it is. It's the eyes, I guess. 75 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Babette also recalled a name, Emily Ellison. Tim Stewart discovered that there was an Emily Ellison who had lived in London, the daughter of a prominent family. 76 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Members of the family were featured in many society columns of the day, but Emily was strangely absent. 77 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:43,000 In a lot of ways, she was very rebellious against the money and the power and the seclusion. 78 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Her father was very strict, very controlling of her life and everything that she did. 79 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:58,000 When they met in England, I fell in love with her. And I was going to marry her, and I was going to come back. 80 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,000 I told her I'd come back, but I never came back. 81 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:09,000 William Max died in North Africa in 1943, but did he keep his promise to Emily that he would come back? 82 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Tim Stewart, the once skeptical reporter, believes Max did keep his promise, and that Tim Stewart was destined to fall in love with Babette because she carries the spirit of Emily within her. 83 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:30,000 We never really lose each other. Many people are afraid of death, and they're afraid of either losing someone close to them or being lost. 84 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:39,000 And this story really shows how you really don't lose the people that you love and the people who are close to you. 85 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Researching the life and death of William Max was just the first part of Tim Stewart's incredible past life journey. 86 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,000 By a strange coincidence, Tim Stewart met William Max's family. 87 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:59,000 It happened when William Max's sister-in-law stopped Stewart a total stranger on the street and said he looked familiar. 88 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,000 After his past life regression, skeptical reporter Tim Stewart was still a reporter. 89 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:25,000 But he was also a believer. He fully accepted the fact that he was the reincarnation of a man named William Max. 90 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:34,000 But, with the surviving members of Max's family, also accept the fact that their dead brother and uncle had returned in the body of Tim Stewart. 91 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,000 They say that we recognize each other through our eyes. Our eyes are the window to the soul. 92 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:50,000 And, Babette, whenever I'm hurting or I don't feel right, if she just looks me straight in the eyes, it's just, it's wiped away. 93 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Tim and Babette believe their love is eternal. That they continue the love William and Emily could not finish. 94 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Every Christmas, under the Christmas tree, there's always a present from William to Em, and from Em to William. 95 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Last year, it was something as inexpensive as, I think, a 75-cent English coin that dated 1943. 96 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 And it had to be something to link to that life. 97 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Babette's past life is only one link in a chain of strange events that culminated in Tim Stewart's visit to Max's hometown in Pennsylvania. 98 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,000 He hadn't been in Allentown since he was four years old. 99 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,000 I went back for a funeral, and I mean, probably would have never went back to Pennsylvania. 100 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,000 But Uncle Charlie happened to be one of my very favorite uncles. 101 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:43,000 And I was with another aunt and uncle, and we were in the car right behind the hearse, and we happened to pass over a railroad track. 102 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:51,000 As soon as we got to the railroad tracks, Tim said, this seems like I've been here before. He says, I really feel like I've been here. 103 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Tim had to get out of the car. Someone or something was pulling him in strange directions. 104 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,000 It was like, literally, the hair on the back of my neck stood on him. 105 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:10,000 With an unsettling mixture of fear and deja vu, Tim Stewart rejoined his family and met a momentary stranger. 106 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:15,000 We had a funeral that day, and Bernice brought Tim and introduced me to him. 107 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:21,000 And when I first saw him, I looked at him and I said, you remind me of someone that I know. 108 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:27,000 And I said, well, my father's name is so-and-so, my mother's name, and I gave him, she says, no, no. 109 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:34,000 I think he reminded me of William from the eyes of Farhead and the hairline. At the time, I didn't put it together. 110 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:44,000 And then she introduced herself as Thelma Max. And at that point, I asked her what she related to William, and she said, yes, I was his sister-in-law. 111 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Thelma Max is the widow of Jerome Max, William's eldest brother. She and her children are the last surviving members of the Max family. 112 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,000 They approached him, Stewart, with skepticism. 113 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Tim told us the story of what he had been working on, and I still didn't believe it. I didn't believe it. 114 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,000 But Thelma and her children agreed to take Stewart to the Max family plot. 115 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:15,000 On the way, they quizzed him and challenged his knowledge of the family. 116 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:25,000 They kept asking me about William's mother. I could never picture her, but I would picture these long, slender windows with lacy curtains blowing away from him. 117 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:32,000 That's where their mother had died up in that room, where Tim saw the curtains blowing in. 118 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,000 While he was in Allentown, Tim Stewart retraced the path of William Max's life. 119 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,000 He went to his boyhood home, the place where he worked, the railroad tracks where he used to wander. 120 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:50,000 The doors just started opening up when the word got out in Allentown when I was back there. 121 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,000 I heard about this recombination coming back as Billy Max, and I wanted to meet him. 122 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,000 I stood up and he walks over and he keeps looking at me and looking at me in the eyes. 123 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 He says, well, I gotta admit, he says, you look and you stand like William. 124 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Prove it to me. I didn't really believe in him. 125 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:14,000 He says, you know, he says, if you really were William, there is one thing that he told only one person. 126 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,000 I asked the question, what it was the last thing that Billy ever said before he left, when he left the United States. 127 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:24,000 And I said, stop right there. And he said, what? 128 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:32,000 And I said, I can tell you what it is. In 1940, I had a dream that if I went into the service and I shipped overseas, I would never make it home. 129 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:40,000 I'd be killed. And the man went from sitting this way, leaning back and turned as white as a ghost. 130 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:48,000 I got goosebumps beyond his wrist. And I'm not the thing I believe in it, and I'm not saying I don't believe in it. 131 00:13:49,000 --> 00:14:00,000 I don't know why I know the things that I know. I mean, it's not something, even to this day, I've met the family and everything, but the only way to know is to die. 132 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,000 I mean, that's the only guaranteed way of knowing. 133 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,000 Do you feel a special bond to Allentown? Something here? 134 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Every time I've been back here, there's certain things and certain geographic areas. 135 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:21,000 With time and growing trust, the Max's have come to accept Tim Stewart as one of the family. 136 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:33,000 I think people form love relationships that they continue, that love bonds that they have with family members, and they continue to try to develop those relationships over a period of lifetimes. 137 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 And I think that's definitely true for Tim. 138 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:43,000 It was not a coincidence he went to Allentown. I don't believe in coincidences. I really believe that the energies tend to move as where we need to be. 139 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:51,000 Psychologist and regression therapist Betty Bender believes Tim Stewart was brought to Allentown to bring closure to a life cut short. 140 00:14:51,000 --> 00:15:01,000 An individual who died in World War II came back very quickly and has a strong desire to complete something or find somebody. 141 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Babette thinks she knows who William Max is trying to find. During her regressions, Babette has seen Emily with a baby. 142 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:16,000 I thought that they had had a child together and that he had never known that the child existed. 143 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:22,000 It also came out during one of my regressions that she had died before the child was very old. 144 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,000 It was a son and she called him David. 145 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,000 If there was a David, his father and mother were dead before he was one. 146 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Where this war orphan is 50 years later is one mystery Stewart can't solve. 147 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:43,000 My gut feeling is if the child made it through the war, that more than likely he's alive and well probably living in England. 148 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Tim Stewart continues to use his reporter's instincts to search for clues about David, the son that would be older than he is. 149 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:58,000 I guess there's sort of a fear to find this person and be rejected by them. 150 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:06,000 On the same hand, there's like a nurturing aspect where you want to find them to make sure they're okay. 151 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:14,000 What started as just another job, one more magazine article to write, has become a lifelong quest. 152 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,000 Tim Stewart feels he must find William Max's child. 153 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:31,000 William Max is as much a part of my soul as I will be when I pass on and those two people merge. 154 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Tim Stewart continues to search for his son from a past life. 155 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:44,000 The child, first named David, was born in Devonshire, England and would be in his 50s today. 156 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:50,000 He may have been adopted. His birth mother, who died in the late 40s, was Marion M. Ellison. 157 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,000 His birth father was William Max. 158 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Next, will paranormal researchers find an answer to the Heartland mysteries? 159 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,000 With further investigation, we have a good opportunity to solve this mystery, yes. 160 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,000 She scares women daylight out of me. 161 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:17,000 For almost one full year, sightings has conducted an ongoing investigation into unprecedented haunting activity inside one unassuming house in America's Heartland. 162 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:27,000 We've heard from many viewers who have intriguing theories about the source of the haunting activity, so armed with your recommendations, we now return to the house. 163 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Sally, stop it. 164 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Someone's starting to bleed. 165 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Why don't you sit down? 166 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,000 There's a little girl that's standing right there. 167 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,000 Sally, is that your name, Sally? 168 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,000 MC. 169 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Yeah, we've got a new scratch. 170 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:49,000 There is an entity in this room right now. No doubt in my mind. 171 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Something is burning my face right now. 172 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,000 In full view of eight witnesses. 173 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Did you physically felt that? 174 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Yeah, that hurt. 175 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:06,000 After our last visit there, I became more convinced that this phenomena was legitimate, that there was something really going on. 176 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000 One of the most unique elements are the scratches, of course. 177 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,000 I've been there, I've witnessed them happening while I was observing him. 178 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:20,000 It's the story sightings viewers can't stop talking about, especially those strange bleeding scratches. 179 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Parapsychologist Carrie Gainer responds to your suggestions that the bleeding scratches could have a medical rather than a paranormal explanation. 180 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:39,000 I've been researching a skin condition called dermatographism, and what that is, is a person can scratch himself and nothing will show up until about 10 or 15 minutes later. 181 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,000 This is very interesting in light of the way this phenomenon is occurring in this case. 182 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:52,000 The references that I've looked at so far do not include bleeding with this skin condition, and certainly in this case there have been bleeding scratch marks. 183 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,000 So this doesn't seem to be a very good explanation for what's going on in this case. 184 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Many viewers also wanted to know more about the child entity known as Sally. 185 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Sightings was chastised for overlooking a religious explanation, so our team now includes Franciscan Monk, Father and Anthony. 186 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:15,000 I would not consider Heartland to be an extreme case. I don't think there's demonic possessions going on. 187 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:25,000 I think what's happening there is there is perhaps a, we would maybe call, lost soul or a spirit that is trying to communicate. 188 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:31,000 When you try to communicate with somebody, if they're not listening to you, if they're not paying attention to you, 189 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:38,000 you're going to do all kinds of things to get that person's attention. I think perhaps a spirit would do the same thing. 190 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Many viewers have suggested that the scratching is actually stigmata, which they define as a physical manifestation of Christ's crucifixion wounds. 191 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I don't think Jeff has experienced a stigmata. I think you have to look at, is there connection to the doctor who was involved or who was there when this young girl died? 192 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:06,000 There is a part in scripture that says, and the sins shall be passed from generation to generation upon your children's children's children, however. 193 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:16,000 You know, what happens is it can jump over generations. Things can manifest themselves or things can become present generations later. 194 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:21,000 I've heard of these things happening and I think that you can find a psychological reason for it all the time. 195 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Not to say that there may not also be a ghost or an entity or some kind of spiritual explanation that goes along with it. 196 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,000 But I think there's also a psychological connection. 197 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Psychiatrist Dr. Carol Lieberman agrees with many sightings viewers that there is a psychological explanation for the haunting activity. 198 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Something about Pam and Jeff makes them more susceptible to haunting activity. 199 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Some people believe that ghosts don't just attach themselves or entities, don't just attach themselves to anyone or don't just come in at any time. 200 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:04,000 That people, the more open a person is in various ways vulnerable or open in a positive way, the more they're likely to affect them. 201 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:12,000 If we just drop our skepticism just for a moment and as a researcher I'm not really allowed to do that, but there's a real human angle here and that is a man's being terrorized. 202 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:22,000 Something's happening to him without his say, without his control and he's got to be thinking to himself, well if this could happen what else could happen? 203 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 She scares and living daylights out of me. 204 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:35,000 If I had to come up with one global explanation to include the whole family psychodynamics as well as the spiritual entities that may dwell there, 205 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:48,000 I would say that it has to do with a lot of anger directed at father figures for abuses that have gone on through the ages with the anger at fathers or father figures. 206 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:58,000 These expert opinions are important, but as long as Jeff and Pam remained in the house the entities didn't appear to pay any attention to expert opinion. 207 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:05,000 Now a new family lives in the house. So far they've experienced no haunting activity. 208 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:15,000 When I go around town everyone when I tell where I'm living they start talking about it. They tell me I've heard so many stories and I was surprised there's so many people that believe this stuff. 209 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:26,000 If the activity continues in the house with the new family then what we have is a traditional haunt and the people coming into the environment might bring that phenomena out. 210 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:42,000 So it's even possible that somebody could live there and nothing would happen. If on the other hand it follows the family to their new home then we have a haunt really that seems to be centered around an individual. Jeff. 211 00:22:42,000 --> 00:23:01,000 You're being asked to help Sally. The danger sometimes comes in I think with things like this. When we refuse to do that you asked me earlier if there is any physical possibility of any physical danger or harm. I think there could be. 212 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:09,000 With further investigation we have a good opportunity to solve this mystery yes. I really think we have a pretty good chance. 213 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:28,000 While the house is quiet now both Kerry Gaynor and psychic Peter James believe there are two spirits one good and one bad. There is also reason to believe that Sally the so called bad spirit may have followed the former residents to their new house. 214 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 We'll keep you updated. 215 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Coming up in Extra Terrestrial's sabotage US missile sites. 216 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Object managed to change the tracking numbers on the missile then altered states of consciousness may keep them alive and later back from the dead with messages of hope. 217 00:23:49,000 --> 00:24:03,000 Sightings has in its possession authenticated Defense Department memorandum which state in no uncertain terms that military personnel cited UFOs over three different nuclear weapons storage facilities in 1975. 218 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:10,000 At least one missile was compromised by what one doD memo describes as clear intent. 219 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Ufologists believe that the damage was much more extensive and that our entire nuclear arsenal could have been the victim of extra terrestrial sabotage. 220 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:33,000 In the 1960s and 70s these images of a vast underground security network allowed America to sleep at night a security blanket of nuclear weaponry poised at the ready. 221 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:45,000 But in the fall of 1975 someone or something tampered with our nuclear capability supposedly infallible systems were incapacitated and unknown force was at work. 222 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,000 Military personnel observed it but could not stop it. 223 00:24:50,000 --> 00:25:00,000 Security was breached at three US nuclear installations at each base eyewitnesses reported seen undedified craft hovering above nuclear storage facilities. 224 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:10,000 The speed it took off with I've seen F-16s fly high rates of speed and this was here and gone from a dead steel hover. 225 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,000 One of the installations was here. Wortsmouth Air Force Base in Oscoe to Michigan. 226 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:23,000 The base is closed now but in 1975 it was on 24 hour alert armed and ready for a nuclear strike. 227 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,000 In October of that year the practiced routine was suddenly shattered by an alarm. 228 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:35,000 Radar was picking up an undedified craft advancing toward the base at a high rate of speed. This was not a drill. 229 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,000 This is top rock with an expedite scramble. Authentication time is 1906. Scramble. 230 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:48,000 On radar the UFO appeared to be closing in fast but jet interceptors could not locate any aircraft in the area. 231 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Author Barry Greenwood has spent nearly 20 years researching the 1975 incident. 232 00:25:53,000 --> 00:26:01,000 There were at least a dozen US and Canadian military bases that were over flown during a three week period in 1975. 233 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:10,000 According to this Defense Department memorandum military personnel filed official sightings reports after visual and radar contact was established. 234 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:16,000 In each case the UFO appeared to be headed directly for nuclear weapons storage facilities. 235 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:29,000 The person writing the report stated that when one object came low over a weapon storage area that appeared to demonstrate a clear intent over this area meaning it seemed to have intelligence. 236 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:42,000 We've spoken to a number of eyewitnesses involved in the 75 incidents. They are all emphatic that what was seen was certainly not a conventional aircraft. 237 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,000 One of the eyewitnesses to the Wortsmouth incident was civilian aircraft mechanic Rick Everhart. 238 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:52,000 In 1975 he lived directly across from Wortsmouth's main gate. 239 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,000 One evening I went to bed approximately 12 o'clock. 240 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:06,000 I was awakened in the morning by a bright glowing orange colored light that was coming in through our sliding glass doors. 241 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Bright orange glowing orange fluorescent orange. 242 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 I don't think I've ever seen orange that bright in my life. 243 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,000 It lit up my house on the inside like we had the lights on. 244 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:22,000 So I got up to investigate, went to the sliding room doors, looked out over the creek. 245 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:27,000 There was a large glowing orange oval shaped object. 246 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:34,000 To me it looked like it was probably about two to three football field lengths long and a good couple wide. 247 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,000 It hovered over there for I'd say good three to four minutes. 248 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:45,000 And at that time it sped off at a high rate of speed heading away from the air base. 249 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,000 I was scared. There was fear running through me and I couldn't believe what I had seen. 250 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Everhart's testimony is important because military eyewitnesses will not talk on the record. 251 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:04,000 It's very difficult to find military witnesses because they're at the time covered by regulations. 252 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:12,000 They certainly cannot take a story like a UFO sighting and go running to the press with it. 253 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:19,000 And I decided along with several other researchers to file freedom of information requests with the Pentagon, 254 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:28,000 with the Air Force, with the bases involved to find out if there was some documentation as to what was occurring over these bases. 255 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:35,000 And the Pentagon had advised the bases to invoke a security option three alert. 256 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,000 According to this Air Force document, the high level security alert was ordered because, quote, 257 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:50,000 penetration of sensitive areas during the hours of darkness have prompted the implementation of security option three at our northern tier bases, unquote. 258 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Sightings had occurred at Malmstrom, Wortsmouth and Lorrie Air Force bases. 259 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:05,000 The reason this is so significant and interesting is that they seem to be focused on atomic weapons and some mysterious objects which they call mystery helicopters. 260 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Some kind of unidentified objects were seen and tracked on radar flying around in areas where they had no business being. 261 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:23,000 In fact, these bases, because of what they stood for, there were massive retaliation capability and therefore there were very high security bases with usually security police and guard dogs, 262 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:29,000 barbed wire, alarm systems, all kinds of things that made them very highly secure bases. 263 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:37,000 And that's why this is so significant that whatever this was flying around could just penetrate all these defenses at will. 264 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000 Timothy Goode is the author of Above Top Secret. 265 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:47,000 He believes the extent of the UFO invasion was far greater than the three incidents reported by the Air Force. 266 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:57,000 According to some researchers and some people who have come forward, there were several occasions when UFOs hovered over the nuclear missile silos. 267 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:04,000 When it was shown on the control panel that the missile would not have been able to have been launched. 268 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Could UFOs invade and neutralize America's missile launch capability? According to ufologists, they could and did. 269 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:43,000 The first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of 270 00:30:43,000 --> 00:31:13,000 the launch, the first day of the early launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of launch, the first day of launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of launch, the first day of the launch, the first day of the launch, the before launch, 30thbs, the 24thbs,警, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs. The 24thbs, the 24thுülts the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs and launch the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 24thbs, the 22thbs 271 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,000 were real and unexplained and flying in and out of these top security areas at will 272 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 and they had no control over it. This would cause them a serious problem. 273 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,000 They can't say we're defending you. They just can't. It's beyond their capability. 274 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,000 They shouldn't be held to blame for this. I just wish there would be a little more candid 275 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,000 with the public about what goes on in these cases. 276 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000 The United States Air Force continues to deny allegations 277 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,000 that the 1975 sightings incapacitated our nuclear defense systems. 278 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,000 But they do not deny that there was clear intent displayed by UFOs 279 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000 flying over Wortsmouth, Loring and Malmstrom Air Force bases. 280 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Next, snakes in the pulpit lead these people to altered states of consciousness. 281 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,000 They handle fire, snakes, drink Strict 9 without being injured. 282 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Recent studies indicate that altered states of consciousness, 283 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:15,000 deep relaxation for example, can ease pain and alleviate symptoms of disease. 284 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:22,000 But are there mental states that can actually shield the physical body from disease and even death? 285 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,000 In small churches throughout America, people in an altered state of consciousness 286 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,000 are drinking poison, handling cobras and living to tell about it. 287 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,000 In the Old Testament, the snake is a powerful symbol of man's fall from grace, 288 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,000 the messenger of temptation and physical embodiment of sin. 289 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:50,000 In rural churches throughout America, practitioners believe that they can confront the dark powers of sin 290 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,000 and emerge unscathed. In an altered state of consciousness known as the anointing, 291 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,000 they grasp poisonous snakes and drink lethal doses of Strict 9. 292 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:06,000 The reason why we handle snakes is because the Bible says in March 16th they shall take up serpence. 293 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:12,000 We also believe that the Bible says if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. 294 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:18,000 We believe through the power and the spirit of God that we can do it and it will not hurt us. 295 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,000 The participants typically work themselves into some kind of state of altered consciousness. 296 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,000 You become so heightened as to what you're looking for that it literally alters the body chemistry. 297 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:35,000 Author Fred Wolfe is a physicist who researches altered states of consciousness 298 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000 and searches for a scientific explanation. 299 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,000 If you're doing something very extraordinary, I believe that there will be a change in your body chemistry. 300 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,000 There will be a change in your neurophysiology. There will be a change in the way your brain is functioning. 301 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Over and beyond the normal way that your brain would function. 302 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Skeptics charge that the rituals are fake, that the snakes are not always venomous 303 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:02,000 and the Strict 9 is so diluted it could not be lethal, but independent tests have shown that the venom and poison are. 304 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:10,000 They become immune to snake bite to Strict 9 because they've taken so much into their bodies over a period of time 305 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,000 in small enough dosages that by the time they get to a larger dosage that would kill me, 306 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,000 their bodies have been protected by the immunization process. 307 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:26,000 But for the devout, there is only one explanation for their immunity, faith in the power of God. 308 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:33,000 In this home video from eastern Kentucky, practitioner Grace Holland appears to drink Strict 9 and handle fire 309 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000 while in the throes of a religious ecstasy. 310 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:48,000 The most fascinating thing to me about this religion is they handle fire, they handle snakes, they drink Strict 9, 311 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:54,000 they get through this without being injured. It's absolutely unbelievable to me. 312 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Most of the snake churches are located in rural areas of Appalachia and the deep south. 313 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,000 Services aren't advertised because the use of snakes in the pulpit is outlawed in most localities. 314 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:14,000 Practitioners often worship in defiance of the law or go to places where snake handling is allowed, like this church in Kingston, Georgia. 315 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:22,000 If the Lord is with you, you're not afraid at all. When I get the sensation to pick up a serpent, you can feel it go right through your hands and out your feet. 316 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,000 It's wonderful, it's a protecting spirit that you feel all about you. 317 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Religious historian David Kimbrough has researched the practices of Pentecostal snake handling churches for ten years. 318 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Snake handling is extremely dangerous. Since I've been doing my research and studying this movement since 1910, 319 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:48,000 I have found 73 deaths by snake bite, five additional deaths by people drinking Strict 9. 320 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:55,000 So I think that tells the story that it's a very dangerous concept when you're reaching that box. 321 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000 You know that you can be taken out of this world. 322 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Primarily we use copperheads and cotton mouths and rattlesnakes. Occasionally we get cobras and coral snakes too. 323 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:11,000 And the most dangerous I would say would be the rattlesnake. 324 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Obviously this is a very dangerous practice and we don't encourage nobody to do it. 325 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:24,000 As a matter of fact, we discourage you to do it unless you're anointed by the Spirit of God. 326 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:31,000 I'm very fearful of snakes, but when the anointing's on me, it don't bother me one bit to pick them up. 327 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:37,000 You ain't got the Lord in you, you better leave it alone. It's dangerous, there's death there. 328 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:45,000 Sightings presents this report as an example of the effect of altered states on some people some of the time. 329 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:51,000 There have been deaths. In fact, one of the members of the Georgia community in this report has recently died 330 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:59,000 after being bitten by a rattlesnake in church. Never assume that you are safe. Never pick up a poisonous snake. 331 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Up next, a near-death experience transforms a life. 332 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:09,000 This being of light approached me and I was told that it's the little things that we do that lead to good. 333 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:20,000 The validity of near-death experience is being challenged. Some members of the scientific community believe that the tunnel, 334 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:26,000 the white light and the angelic figures are all hallucinations induced by oxygen deprivation. 335 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,000 But these visions are only a small part of the near-death experience. 336 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:38,000 What science cannot explain away are the physical and spiritual transformations that occur after an NDE. 337 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:50,000 They claim to have walked through the invisible door between this world and the next and have glimpsed life after death. 338 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:57,000 But before they take the final irretrievable step into oblivion, they are pulled back, pulled back for a purpose, 339 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,000 and then transformed by what is called the near-death experience. 340 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:07,000 Before I had the near-death experience, I was not a good person at all. 341 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 I was fearful, materialistic. 342 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,000 I was a high-pressure guy after a lot of bucks. 343 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:18,000 I was just lost. I was totally depressed, totally sick, couldn't put one foot in front of the other. 344 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Sandy Green fell into a deep depression after her husband of 26 years asked for a divorce. 345 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000 Shortly after, she was diagnosed with cancer. 346 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,000 It was during radiation treatment that she had her NDE. 347 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,000 My angels took me out into the white light. 348 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,000 It just pulsated with the brightest light, and it was love. It was pulsating love. 349 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000 The nice thing I remember is there was no pain. 350 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:52,000 I received the energies and the knowledge and the help to learn how to become well. 351 00:38:52,000 --> 00:39:00,000 If I wanted to go back and learn how to save my life and then teach others how to do it, 352 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000 I would have a loving life again. 353 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:08,000 And boy, is that powerful for a person like me who lost everything. 354 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Sandy was transformed emotionally and physically, 355 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,000 working with Orlando's Getting Well program, she beat her cancer. 356 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:22,000 Anger stops my creativity. It actually increases my tumor markers. 357 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,000 Her physician, Dr. Peter Goulden, has charted Sandy's remarkable recovery. 358 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:33,000 When we see that happen, we try to pin that down by something we've done as the profession. 359 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Was it that radiation that we gave? How about the chemotherapy, etc. 360 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:46,000 And a lot of times we don't have an adequate explanation for why things got better. 361 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000 And so, who knows? 362 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,000 Sandy has returned to her nursing career with a new mission. 363 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:58,000 She is the founder of Hope and Recovery, a program which provides home care for cancer patients. 364 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,000 I try to sell them on the adventure, because mine has been an adventure, 365 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,000 not the trials and tribulations of cancer, but my adventure. 366 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,000 Hope is believing that anything is possible. 367 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Hope was not a word in Angie Fennebore's vocabulary, when she had her NDE after a failed suicide attempt. 368 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,000 I really had some feelings of self-doubt. I thought I was a bad mother and bad wife. 369 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,000 And I decided I was just going to end my life, but I had no other choice. 370 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:33,000 Angie took an overdose of pills and slit her wrists to end the pain, but there was no comfort in death. 371 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:41,000 I started looking around for a tunnel of light, like I'd heard about, and there was nothing there, except for darkness. 372 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000 And I heard the words, is this what you really want? 373 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:52,000 And in the time that it took for me to hear those words, this being of light approached me. 374 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:58,000 I was filled with truths and with pure knowledge, pure understanding of how life works. 375 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:03,000 And I was told that it's the little things that we do that lead to good and light in the world. 376 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:15,000 After my near-death experience, I could see clearly how I had created the problems in my life, and quite easily how they could be avoided. 377 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:24,000 For Angie, the experience revealed one supreme truth that transformed her life, the overwhelming power of love. 378 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,000 Not love in the usual personal sense, but a kind of universal love. 379 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:38,000 It's easy to understand why people speak in this way, though, because it's exactly that they feel filled with during their NDE, and they can't help radiating it afterward. 380 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000 But that's it. It's love. 381 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:49,000 It was just that love and serenity just... I can't really put it in words what it was like, but it was beautiful. 382 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:58,000 Dee Wagner was a heroin addict and an unfit mother, according to the court that took her daughter away, but then Dee had an NDE. 383 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:06,000 Before her near-death experience, my mom had no respect for herself. She was under a partying and her drugs and her dealing, and it was more like I was the parent in our relationship. 384 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:16,000 I always took care of my mom. After my mom's near-death experience, she turned into a person that's loving and caring and has respect for people and herself. 385 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:23,000 I have relationship with Tanya again, and it's a pretty good relationship. 386 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:35,000 People that know me say that I'm different as night and day made 180 degree turnaround, and I'm not afraid to die, that's for sure, because I got to get a glimpse of where I would be going. 387 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,000 And I'm glad I have a second chance, because when I do go, I'll be going clean and sober. 388 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Sandy, Angie and Dee continue to spread their message of universal love. They believe that everyone is capable of personal transformations without having to endure a near-death experience. 389 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:17,000 You can still reach sightings 24 hours a day at 1-900-933-7444. 390 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:25,000 Until next time, remember, no mystery is closed to an open mind. For Sightings, I'm Tim White. 391 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,000 I'm Tim White. 392 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,000 I'm Tim White. 393 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,000 I'm Tim White. 394 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,000 I'm Tim White. 395 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,000 I'm Tim White. 396 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,000 I'm Tim White.